2017 St. Louis Super Regional


Prelims Results
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Class A
1. Collinsville H.S., OK
2. Hollister H.S., MO
3. Monticello H.S., IL
Music: Collinsville H.S., OK
Visual: Collinsville H.S., OK
GE: Collinsville H.S., OK

Class AA
1. Grain Valley H.S., MO
2. Morton H.S., IL
3. Camdenton H.S., MO
Music: Grain Valley H.S., MO
Visual: Grain Valley H.S., MO
GE: Grain Valley H.S., MO

Class AAA
1. Bixby H.S., OK
2. Lincoln H.S., SD
3. Prospect H.S., IL
Music: Bixby H.S., OK
Visual: Bixby H.S., OK
GE: Prospect H.S., IL

Class AAAA
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2. Blue Springs H.S., MO
3. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
Music: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Visual: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
GE: Broken Arrow H.S., OK

Finals Results
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1. (88.80) Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2. (87.55) Blue Springs H.S., MO
3. (87.10) O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
4. (85.40) Owasso H.S., OK
5. (83.75) Grain Valley H.S., MO
6. (83.75) Westwood H.S., TX
7. (81.80) Jenks H.S., OK
8. (79.60) Bixby H.S., OK
9. (78.75) Prospect H.S., IL
10. (78.65) Morton H.S., IL
11. (78.45) Bentonville H.S., AR
12. (77.90) Rockwood Summit H.S., MO
13. (76.40) Lincoln H.S., SD
14. (75.75) Camdenton H.S., MO

Music: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Visual: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
GE: Broken Arrow H.S., OK

Returning 2016 Finalists (8)
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2. Blue Springs H.S., MO
3. Owasso H.S., OK
6. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
11. Grain Valley H.S., MO
12. Fort Zumwalt North H.S., MO
13. Jenks H.S., OK
14. Bixby H.S., OK

Previous Champions
2016: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2015: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2014: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2013: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2012: Owasso H.S., OK
2011: Broken Arrow H.S., OK

States Represented (11)
Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, and Texas.

The 2017 St. Louis Super Regional will be held Oct. 20–21 at The Dome at America's Center. In 2016, Broken Arrow decisively won yet another super regional champion title.

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Analysis
As has become usual now, the St. Louis Super Regional promises to be one of the most exciting and competitive events in the country. With over 60 bands attending yet again, the fight for finals spots that we have become used to will be just as tough as ever. Always entertaining and never predictable, here are our picks for this year’s contest, separated into bands we think are locks and bands that fall more on the bubble for a finals spot.

Top-two locks

Broken Arrow (OK) performs at the St. Louis Super Regional on Oct. 22, 2016, at the Dome at America's Center. // Photo by Jeremiah Wooten
Broken Arrow, Oklahoma: What can we say? The fact that they currently sit at number one in our Top 30 despite not yet competing at a BOA-level event tells you all you need to know. Broken Arrow is one of the premier programs in the country, and they have made this competition theirs over the past four years. Expect nothing less than first place.

Blue Springs, Missouri: Fresh off a performance at Renegade Review that showed they can hang with the best in the country, this band is absolutely phenomenal when they are firing on all cylinders. Don’t forget that they were one of only two bands to score higher than eventual Grand National champion Carmel at any contest last season. Their show this year is incredible, and they will be disappointed if they slip below second.

Renegade-Review-results-really-screwed-up-these-predictions locks

Bentonville, Arkansas: If someone tells you they had Bentonville outside of finals at this competition last season, they are probably lying. That fifteenth place result was certainly surprising, but after a strong showing at Renegade Review last weekend, Bentonville seems to back on track to comfortably make finals.

Grain Valley (MO) performs at the Renegade Review on Oct. 14, 2017, at Union High School. The band earned third place overall. // Photo by Jeremiah Wooten
Grain Valley, Missouri: Going from sixth in prelims behind both Bentonville and Jenks to third in finals ahead of Owasso at Renegade Review is a huge but understandable jump. It also makes this group ridiculously hard to predict, aside from calling them a lock, but the insane potential this group showed has all of us excited.

Jenks, Oklahoma: Probably the most pleasant surprise of Renegade Review when considering prelims and finals, Jenks held their own against tough competition, even beating Grain Valley in prelims. They placed just thirteenth here last year, but it seems as though they can improve upon that considerably this time around.

Owasso, Oklahoma: Placing behind Grain Valley was certainly unexpected, but it’s hard to see this group not coming back with something to prove. Expect a fiery performance out of Owasso, and a spot in the top half of finals at least.

Other locks

Cypress Falls, Texas: The logic here is simple: if this group can make finals at San Antonio, they will certainly be able to make finals at St. Louis. Cy Falls hasn’t performed at any of the Texas regionals this season, however, so it’s hard to predict with any confidence, aside from saying they ought to be a strong, top-end finalist lock.

O'Fallon Township (IL) performs at the Golden Regiment Invitational on Sept. 30, 2017, at Blue Springs High School. The band earned first place and swept captions. // Photo by Jeremiah Wooten
O'Fallon Township, Illinois: OTHS has reached final form and now covers the entire field with tarps, and somehow, makes it work. The show is actually unique and fantastic, and they have the potential to even crack the top three.

Prospect, Illinois: This is the first time Prospect has attended this competition since 2013, and we are thrilled to see them back. Always impressive, especially visually, look for them to be right on the edge of a top-half finish.

Westwood, Texas: Placing eleventh at the Austin Regional, which might easily have been the most competitive Texas regional this year, Westwood is an easy lock in our eyes. Eleventh doesn’t sound very high, but keep in mind that nine of the bands that scored higher are currently in our Top 30. They will be looking to make a name for themselves with a solid performance.

Close-to-locks-but-we-aren’t-confident-enough-to-say-it bubble

Bixby, Oklahoma: They avoid being in the Renegade Review section of these predictions because they placed exactly where one would expect. Seventh place is not at all bad, and the gap between them and the top six in finals can in some part be explained by the fact that they performed first in finals. But there is a chance, albeit a small one, they do miss finals.

Fort Zumwalt North, Missouri: After becoming the first St. Louis, Missouri,-side band to qualify since 2011, FZN will be looking to improve upon last season’s twelfth place finish. As of this week, they look to be at a similar level to last year, making their chances very solid.

Mustang, Oklahoma: They surprised everyone and placed ninth at this contest in 2015, but did not return last year, which is the only reason we aren’t listing them as a lock. Expect another good showing out of this group.

The bubble

Anderson, Texas: Never count Texas out. These Texas groups that travel to out-of-state super regionals somehow almost always sneak into finals.

Blue Valley West, Kansas: They had a breakout performance at the Golden Regiment Invitational, placing third in finals over Camdenton and Blue Valley and very close to Bellevue West. If they keep up the level we saw from them there, they could be the shock finalist this year.

Camdenton, Missouri: Their show this year is incredibly fun, and they did beat BVW in prelims at GRI. Don’t count them out for the last finals spot, either.

Kickapoo, Missouri: About as consistent as they get, Kickapoo almost always find themselves at the very edge of finals here, whether it be looking in or out. Their placement at Renegade Review suggests more of the same this year.

Liberty, Colorado: It went almost unnoticed, but Liberty placed seventeenth at this contest last year and didn’t miss finals by much. Perhaps they take Air Academy’s place as the Colorado band in finals this year.

Lincoln, South Dakota: They made finals two years ago and impressed when they did, but fell to nineteenth last year. A strong showing at the Youth In Music Championships this past weekend has us excited about their chances this year.

Predictions
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2. Blue Springs H.S., MO
3. Cypress Falls H.S., TX
4. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
5. Grain Valley H.S., MO
6. Owasso H.S., OK
7. Westwood H.S., TX
8. Prospect H.S., IL
9. Bentonville H.S., AR
10. Jenks H.S., OK
11. Mustang H.S., OK
12. Bixby H.S., OK
13. Fort Zumwalt North H.S., MO
14. Lincoln H.S., SD

Adjudication Panel
Music: Carly Bly, George Boulden, David Carbone, Bryan Crisp, Brett Johnson, Paul McGarr, David Orser, and Todd Zimbelman.
Visual: Austin Greene, Tim Landess, Kyle Miller, Kevin Nix, Adam Sage, and Bob Thomas.
Chief: Richard Saucedo.

48 comments:

  1. Owasso, Blue Springs, and Jenks are all really really good this year... Look Out.

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  2. Sioux Falls Lincoln is coming back with the best show they have ever presented.

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  3. Having seen every single returning finalists shows, let me just say, we could see everyone back in finals.

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  4. Could you post Predictions for this competition like you did last year?

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  5. Predictions are released the Monday before each event.

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  6. Is there a certain time Predictions are posted or is it just at random?

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  7. I guess I’ll check again tommorow morning

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  9. Usually these predictions are at least somewhat reasonable but I have to say that these aren’t even close to as confident or reasonable as other competitions. Camdenton not being in finals is surley interesting considering they beat Grain Valley. Also there’s a chance for Paragould and Belleville East considering both of their programs have improved drastically since their last BOA performance

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    1. The Ozarko results are not consistent with other competitions these groups competed in this season.
      As far as Belleville East, take a look at the Clarksville results.

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    2. Grain Valley just beat Owasso in Oklahoma...They turned around & beat Camdenton in Ozarko too...I'm guessing that is where they are coming from.

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    3. Grain valley didn't not compete in the finals at the GRI and has not lost to Camdenton. Grain Valley actually beat them in the prelims at that event. Camdenton has a great show and I do think they will show well but picking Grain Valley over them makes sense. They haven't lost to them.

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    4. actually Grain Valley did lose to Camdenton in the prelims at Ozarko.

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    5. As someone associated Camdenton I can say we were first in prelims but it was by more 1 point

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    6. According to Midwest Marching tab sheet, the difference was .05 in prelims. That said, both shows were well-executed and totally enjoyable! Please note that Grain Valley did not have their last set on the field at Ozarko. Renegade Review was the first competition featuring the entire show. I think we can expect both bands to keep bringing continued excellence in future years.

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    7. The only reason Grain Valley didn't compete in the finals at GRI was because it was their Homecoming Night. They made finals, just didn't perform.

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    8. Don't forget about Blue Valley West. Camdenton was great competition, but BVW wasn't far behind. It was a great year for both bands with Camdenton finishing 14th and Blue Valley West in 15th. Can't wait to see the success of these bands in the future.

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  10. These look like the most reasonable predictions they have put out IMO. Lol

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    1. I mean the top is good and I couldn’t agree more. It’s just that the lower half of the table is a bit wonky but that’s because it’s anyones game

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    2. Agree, the bottom half in STL is always up for grabs.

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  11. I guess we will see this saturday if the predictions hold true....

    quod Deus vult eum
    -AnonymousBandGeek OUT ✌️

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  12. Camdenton is awesome this year,I feel like they have a chance at finals

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  13. What about Morton, IL? They hade a very good performance last weekend at Illinois State University and placed 3rd only behind Marian Catholic and O'Fallon Township. They even beat Marian in the 'Visual' category. I think they have a very good shot at making finals and even winning Class 2A. Also, Prospect had a disappointing performance at that competition, and doesn't seem to be in the same levels as they used to be. I'd be surprised to see them in finals this year.

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    1. I think we'll see them in finals, but winning class AA seems unlikely. Fort Zumwalt North and Grain Valley are FANTASTIC this year.

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    2. Illinois State uses two different panels for 1A-4A (Marian and Morton) and 5A-6A (Prospect, O'Fallon). Since finals was cancelled there was no way to compare apples to apples on the same panel in the same competition. Those numbers would have probably shaken out differently if storms didn't cancel the event. Not to discredit Morton, however, as they have a very good and well performed show.

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    3. Prospect beat Morton by 0.10 and I thought their show was less than previous shows. From What I've seen over the past several years is that larger schools just get more 'respect' so little guys like Morton just have to go out and have a far superior show/performance than everybody else.
      Anon is correct with different judges being used for the 2 groups and we'll never know since the finals were cancelled however all judges are supposed to be following same judging criteria. Subjectivity does play a part in judging regardless.

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  14. OFallon, Broken Arrow, Blue Springs My prediction

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  15. BA is wayyyyy better than O' Fallon

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    1. I mean they have a great program but their show this year has the music affect but the visual aspect of their show just didn't have me wanting more. Their show was great and everything and I got the effect thy where going for but i think they could have done better. But i believe O'Fallon has a chance and Grand Nationals this year and cant wait to see them going up against BA but anything could happen am i right?

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    2. I know the season is over, but yes, in short, Broken Arrow is OBVIOUSLY better than O'Fallon Township. The fact that someone would originally post this boggles my mind. It's an obvious statement that can be made when comparing most bands to Broken Arrow. And also, the fact that someone tried to argue against this makes me have a headache. Both bands were good this year, and they were not at all competing for the same thing at Nats or even at St. Louis. Maybe in the future both might be competing for the eagle, but until then a direct comparison of a band with a LONG history of excellence should not be made to a band that just recently came into the BOA regional Finals scene.

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  16. Strong finals group. All bands were great. My personal favorite was Blue Springs, MO

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  17. I agree. Blue springs I felt won the event. All the finalists were great. Grain Valley also held their own and performed as Horn Rank predicted. I'm really impressed with the fact they predicted 12 of the 14 finalist and the other two they had has possibly making it. Great analysis.

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    1. They actually only got 11 of them right.

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  18. What did people think of the Lincoln high school marching band?

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  19. Lincoln put on a great show. I actually thought they would have placed higher. Great fun performance to watch with lots of energy.

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  20. As usual, the predictions for the St. Louis BOA were way wrong, besides first and second place. Cypress Falls was predicted to finish 3rd, and they didn't even make the finals. O'Fallon finished 3rd not 4th, which I'm not quite sure how O'Fallon finished so high marching on a white tarp covered field. I did like O'Fallons music. Grain Valley finished where they were predicted to finish in 5th. Owasso finished 4th, but was predicted to finish 6th. Westwood was supposed to finish 7th, but finished 6th. Jenks was supposed to finish 10th, but finished 7th. Bixby was supposed to finish 12th, but finished 8th. Mustang was supposed to finish 11th, but didn't even make the finals. Morton and Camdenton were not even predicted to make the finals, but finished 10th and 14th respectively. Not going to pay attention to these so called predictions anymore.

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    1. At least they have the guts to predict outcomes. They did a great job IMO. Even if the competition was repeated the next day many of the placements might change. Your choice not to come back, but this is a great site.

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  21. I enjoyed all of the bands...especially the small school from Morton IL. For a small such as they are, their show was very good. When you consider BA with 4.6K in students vs. little Morton at 0.8K, it's no wonder BA has a fantastic show as well as most of the other 'big' schools. Thoroughly enjoyed Grain Valley. Collinsville in division 1A sounded great but couldn't make the finals due to their lower score. Overall the competition was very fun to watch.

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  22. Blue Springs should have won, the only reason they didn't is because of Broken Arrows name.

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  23. O'Fallon's show was amazing!!! They took a big chance veering off the tried and true path of traditional marching band and it paid off. Their show design was immaculate and those kids executed it flawlessly. It was by far the most entertaining show of the season IMHO. Hats off to you O'Fallon, you nailed it!!!

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  24. Where was Rockwood Summit on these predictions?...

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