Top 30 Rankings — Oct. 18, 2016 (Week 6)

Top 30 Rankings — Oct. 18, 2016 (Week 6)

This is a set of rankings from an older poll. We keep all our polls online for archival purposes. You might want to view the current Top 30 rankings or read how we determine rankings.

The biggest news coming out of this weekend was the first round of state competitions.

Castle (IN) performs in prelims at the Clarksville Regional on Sept. 24, 2016, at Austin Peay State University. // Photo by Jeremiah Wooten.
At Indiana State School Music Association regional competitions, Avon narrowly defeated Carmel, followed closely by Castle. That caused Avon and Castle to move up and Carmel to slide down slightly. Homestead's performance at their regional was as would be expected and didn't have an effect on their ranking.

Additionally, state competitions in Illinois moved O'Fallon Township back into the rankings and caused Marian Catholic to drop a few spots. However, Marian always makes drastic improvements the last few weeks of the season, so by the time the Indianapolis Super Regional and the Grand National Championships come around, they'll certainly be back on top.

In actual Bands of America results, Dobyns-Bennett won the Winston-Salem Regional, again. It was enough to push them up a few spots, but the regionals reputation as a whole is not enough to put more than one group on the Top 30.

The previous week's rankings are in parenthesis. Read about how we determine rankings.
  1. Flower Mound H.S., TX (1)
  2. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL (2)
  3. Broken Arrow H.S., OK (3)
  4. Ronald Reagan H.S., TX (5)
  5. Vandegrift H.S., TX (6)
  6. Carmel H.S., IN (4)
  7. Avon H.S., IN (10)
  8. Leander H.S., TX (7)
  9. Marcus H.S., TX (8)
  10. William Mason H.S., OH (9)
  11. Hebron H.S., TX (11)
  12. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (13)
  13. Cedar Park H.S., TX (12)
  14. The Woodlands H.S., TX (14)
  15. LD Bell H.S., TX (16)
  16. Round Rock H.S., TX (15)
  17. James Bowie H.S., TX (17)
  18. Harrison H.S., GA (18)
  19. Castle H.S., IN (21)
  20. Blue Springs H.S., MO (20)
  21. Union H.S., OK (22)
  22. Marian Catholic H.S., IL (19)
  23. Franklin H.S., TN (24)
  24. Owasso H.S., OK (23)
  25. Homestead H.S., IN (25)
  26. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TX (29)
  27. Hendrickson H.S., TX (26)
  28. Keller H.S., TX (27)
  29. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL (unranked)
  30. Winston Churchill H.S., TX (30)
Next 10, in alphabetical order: Ayala (CA), Bentonville (AR), Center Grove (IN), Fort Mill (SC), James F. Byrnes (SC), Prospect (IL), Richland (TX), Rosemount (MN), Vista Ridge (TX), and Wando (SC).


  1. I'm not one to really judge your formula, but in Avon narrowly beat Carmel like you said then wouldn't they be on top of the in the top 30?

    1. The BOA adjudication system gives more weight to the Music and General Effect captions than ISSMA events, so it's our belief that if these two performances were judged at a BOA competition, Carmel would have narrowly beaten Avon. Personally, I think Avon is going to be significantly ahead of Carmel by the time we get to Indy Super and Grand Nats, but that's why we update the rankings every week.

    2. This makes sense. Thank you for clarifying

  2. How is Fort Mill in your next 10 when Nation Ford is not. Nation Ford won a BOA Regional and finished ahead of FM in prelims in Winston. Fort Mill was beaten by Byrnes twice in a row AND they finished behind Panther Creek, NC???!!! How is this worthy of their ranking when they have not done anything this season to justify it

    1. Fort Mill finished behind Panther Creek in finals, but beat them in prelims.

      Fort Mill finished behind Nation Ford in prelims, but beat them in finals.

      James F. Byrnes beat Fort Mill in both rounds.

      Because of these three statements, James F. Byrnes is logically expected to be ahead of all the other groups I mentioned above. The other three groups would likely be extremely close together, but by definition, there can only be 10 groups in the Next 10.

  3. I think I can at least partially answer one of those questions. Mr Masland, I'm guessing that success at BOA events is more important than non-BOA events, so Carmel's great scores still carry a large amount of weight, and to Unknown... yeah I have no clue

    1. I can see that, especially if they use a number formula. Even if Avon got larger numbers added tontheir name in the algorithm Carmel still has more because of BOA Dayton. I have no doubt when they face off at BOA Indy and the state championships it'll be close, but until then Carmel has bigger numbers for more competitions. As for Fort Mill I too also don't understand because, to my knowlege, the knly competitions either one has scores in the algorith are BOA ones, of which Nation Ford won one and outscored FM at the other